Poll: Which heroes need a revamp? Multistar Edition, part 2!

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  • #16
    Would love to see the revamps for old 3* Dragons, Dorian & Vivienne. It was so funny to me that, Dorian was so super difficult to get as if he was ultra powerful.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Alduin The World Eater View Post

      The point is that Cole is often unreliable, but he can be incredibly powerful if RNG favors him. At max power, assuming he crits all 10 hits (which probably won't happen but I have seen him crit 6 times in a row) that's over 120k damage, with no power gain or auras. That's some impressive potential. On a good team you don't really have anything to lose from having him there to clean up after some of the other big guys.
      My take on Cole is that he lacks:

      1. Ability to hit back row without destroying at least one front hero (correct me if this has been amended)
      2. Weak power. Even if he hits 7 times.
      3. No aura
      4. No power gain
      5. No specific targeting. He doesn't target lowest health or highest power.
      6. Too inconsistent

      Good points:
      1. Annoying at best. Can slow down opponents when there is a final rush for banners for pvp events. Not PG of course, cause you'll lose all battles that you use Cole with.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Joshua Kageyama View Post
        Eh, I rarely if ever see AV in those squads its usually all Bianca/VT no point for AV over either of those. Bolter also has a generic dwarf power aura of 30% which is larger then AV's 25%, brings stun resist and much better stats. I'd frankly rather use my Bolter over AV in almost every setup now, the only real "non-red" dwarf squads are BD/GWO squads and for those neither AV nor Bolter are used (though Bolter works better there to)
        I do use twin Bianca front row, AV and Varric back row with DM. But these are just to maximize speed when clearing teams. It is a decent team. But I agree 100% that AV has also kind of been dead on arrival. He needs a small boost to be on par or slightly better than the normal Varric. He's only decent at best in this set up due to twin Biancas.

        Bolter is streets ahead of him at the moment. But AV has a niche place in my team because he can hit the front row and LC first. But yeah, AV needs a boost. Even giving him power curse would immensely increase his versatility.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by EeYan Ong View Post

          But yeah, AV needs a boost. Even giving him power curse would immensely increase his versatility.
          AV does have 75% chance to do a medium drain power... (i know it's not curse..but it's something)...
          But i agree.. Bolter seems to win on stats.

          I have 2 AVs.. he's fun to use against RL teams.. but then again.. when is RL really a threat these days?...i'm still waiting to see a T1 leg forted or better RL IB... i'm sure someone has one... just hiding in their inventory.
          And 2 AVs is awesome sauce for farming Nexus.. he clears just about all the enemies all the time..

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          okay.. so more so to the thread topic...
          what's wrong with Northern Hunter?.. i see plenty of players using him.. though I understand most players would prefer to use a different 3 star dragon... i don't own him myself.. but sometimes I wish I did for options...

          I voted Viv, Dorian, Alexius...

          but then i realized i kind of wanted to vote TLI instead of Alexius...
          doesn't matter now.. they are both on par for 3rd spot vote...

          For Viv... possibly adding the slow enemy attack that The Architect has would be nice.. so she can slow the other column that isn't getting hit by her attack...
          Might put her in use against x2 FH teams... her stats are quite nice.... not sure what else to do with her.
          Dorian is just outclassed by his newer self and INQ mages.. are they even a thing?..(mind you i'm not really counting KEV and KEH who are newer and quite useful) most mages that don't attack all are left behind i suppose.



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          ... and then there's PALA (you know.. that lil warrior dwarf).

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          • #20
            Dorian would be 1 I would think and Prince Sebastian Veil and can you make Fen H. a little weaker...he's kind of unreal
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Thrawn View Post
              Dorian would be 1 I would think and Prince Sebastian Veil and can you make Fen H. a little weaker...he's kind of unreal
              i agree

              i think theres a lot more than the poll suggests also

              Prince Sebastian Veil was seemingly sought after as a better version of Nathaniel Howe, after all the 3x and 4x NH teams. Yet PSV is pretty bleh these days. I bought the flash pack he was in a month or so ago, and landed him, was pretty stoked, but he remained in my d slot team for only a week or so until I got a couple Iron Bulls.


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              • #22
                Yes, I'd say my vote goes for Sebastian Vael. A rework of him that would place him into noteworthy position in Nobility or a fundamental one in Chantry could be wonderful.

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                • #23
                  Since almost every new LC has a niche for groups, how about FF? If Gamordan Stormrider can support orlesians, maybe FF can support Fereldens (hence her namesake). They are also in dire need of a good LC with the Hawkes coming up.

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                  • #24
                    Dorian needs a revamp for sure.

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                    • #25
                      Guys I would like to thank you for constantly updating the toons, adding appropriate group or faction color. There are some old toons that extremely need a make-over.

                      Take for instance, 3* Alexius. I suggest, instead of fully black, he could be black/white since he is or was a magister. His health and power also needs some tweaking and maybe you can say 30% power and health to tevinter and venatori (stacking). He was really a powerful mage and was even Dorian's mentor.

                      Aside from him, I'm sure there's lots that need an update.

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                      • #26
                        Also 3* Vivienne and 3* Dorian. Dorian needs a lot of working, not to mention 2* Sera as well...

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                        • #27
                          In a rock, paper, scissors world every 3-Star should have a roll. No one hero should rule all. 3-Stars should either be a force unto themselves, or provide solid synergy to a squad. When 3-Stars go unused in favor of 1-Stars, they need an upgrade. It takes more time and resources to bring a 3-Star to its full potential, so they really should provide some bang for the buck so to speak. I think there is room at the top for a whole host of meta heroes filling different roles on different squads.

                          I voted for Alexius because I have worked to fort and tier him (losing many Battles in the process) and would like to see him shine, at least brighter than nightlight, without the need of a PVP buff.

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                          • #28
                            I multi-voted; it allowed it, so I hope that's OK.

                            I voted for all of the older, faction dragons as they have been severely outclassed by the newer ones. I think they should buff the respective factions but also at least themselves - and I would like to see them gain 'homeland' tags as well. We have a few Orlesian LCs, not a single Tevinter or Ferelden one...

                            I also voted for TEO. One of the more significant and more powerful characters in the game. His toon is still very good, good auras, attack mechanic, and groupings. He's just been outclassed by the natural powercreep and could use a decent stat boost to retake his rightful place as someone to fear on the other side of the field.
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                            • #29
                              Why isn't Iron Bull an option? One of the two most popular characters from Inquisition and yet there isn't a single Qun team that uses him. How does it make any sense that Arv is about a hundred times better?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sunshinepacker View Post
                                Why isn't Iron Bull an option? One of the two most popular characters from Inquisition and yet there isn't a single Qun team that uses him. How does it make any sense that Arv is about a hundred times better?
                                Arv isn't necessarily better. I use IB in my Qun team all the time. He works amazingly well with Saarath. He's far from needing an update - the original Iron Bull is still the best of his three versions.
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