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  • Ataashi - too strong now?

    Thesis from the title - true or not? Let's see - normal round attack all with double curse (!!!), slow immunity (aka you can't stop the curse from happening by slowing), improved evasion (= much less chance to be hit), large health pool with added +35% hp and 25% dr vs warriors (biggest group there is), big 50% power aura to one of the best groups (Qunari) and another good one (Outlaws), and on top of this big -25% power aura to spirits! Oh, and over 13000 damage on hit - only Northern Hunter has about 600 more. Compare this monster to any other 3* LC - only Dragon Morrigan seems to be as useful, and maybe Abyssal HD for Reavers (and Orlesians) - due to being also normal speed and having more groups.

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    its nice!!!! Its just what atasshi needed, She lacks the Qun tag so that compensates, plus she will be overshine whenever Saarath comes out, she will only be used in Outlaw events
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    • #3
      I think that she may still be used outside Quns and Outlaws - especially vs slow power gainers (warriors and others). Double curse is so convenient (only other normal speed unit with it is 3* Solas) and powerful and you don't need to sacrifice a spot in your dream team, and non-AoE hitters will have big trouble trying to attack her.

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      • #4
        Though she may be much more useful with the curses and normal speed, her health isn't all that great and could lead to her getting knocked out by a strong quick unit before she attacks. I think she is perfect now.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Murphando View Post
          Though she may be much more useful with the curses and normal speed, her health isn't all that great and could lead to her getting knocked out by a strong quick unit before she attacks. I think she is perfect now.
          She won't due to improved evasion (much less chance to be hit), especially when units with taunt are present too. And how 48743*1.35 = 65803 healths is low? If she is perfect now, then almost every other 3* LC is imperfect and needs a revamp (dragons, mentioned months ago).

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          • #6
            Alert has been raised about this.

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            • #7
              ohhhh come on!!! dont tell me a nerf is coming, My quns are awesome vs inquisition now... If they make her slow round again its going to suckkkk!!!! I would approve if we remove her slow immunity, or take it to 25% slow resistance maybe??
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              • #8
                Shoot I forgot about the self buff and evasion. Sorry, I really haven't used her much after I got her tiered up.

                As for being one of the most powerful 3* dragons in HoDA, I think her stats and auras are fitting and only her size needs to be adjusted (to match Vinsomer). She is the last dragon you meet and is supposed to be the strongest dragon you come across in DA:I (depending on when you fight Hakkon and what trials you've turned on - right now I'm having an incredibly difficult time with Kaltenzahn). Her curse functions are also a great fit for the poison-dragon model.

                I'm sure you could argue that she makes Sandy Howler less useful and adds to the issues people are having using Fereldan Frostback, but you could say the same of D Morrigan, The Elder One's D, and Urthemiel in being boosted over the other 3* dragons and overshadowing characters like The Mother. She is quite strong and very useful, but I don't think she breaks the game or is overpowered.

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                • #9
                  DM is still better.

                  If ataashi is getting a nerf, then Dragon morrigan should as well.

                  Can we get some consistency around here, please? Calling for nerf on ataashi while DM still rampages around in Inq squads.

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                  • #10
                    Alright, we asked and got answers.

                    Ataashi is correct and is staying as-is. The fact that she doesn't really get reciprocated auras due to lack of groupings is accounting for her beefy stats. She is still outclassed by the more cohesive units that receive reciprocity in auras (like DM).

                    Enjoy your dragon!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lyeshal View Post
                      Alright, we asked and got answers.

                      Ataashi is correct and is staying as-is. The fact that she doesn't really get reciprocated auras due to lack of groupings is accounting for her beefy stats. She is still outclassed by the more cohesive units that receive reciprocity in auras (like DM).

                      Enjoy your dragon!
                      I concur. She'll be missing out on those nice resistance auras provided by Ket/Arv and Triumvirate, which is one of the strong points of the real Qun (considerable resistances across all negative afflictions).

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                      • #12
                        With inq you have chances to win, a very few chances but you can win, versus triumvirate teams with normal round power/dual curser it's impossible.

                        CG should realise that power curse is what can broke every attempt to counter a top team.
                        In fact ataashi is weak on its own but with a decent triumvirate/the keto-arvaarad/iron bull plus hissrad team he's damned strong.

                        When facing top teams you need an extreme high damage output and inq was strong because they can destroy you easily before you have gained all the power required (but with some strategy you can beat them). If you got cursed by ataashi how the hell can you take down an IB or a sten?

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                        • #13
                          I rather find the 2xketo 2×arv saraath setup almost impossible to deal with. Teams with IB and Sten and ataashi in it can be taken out with the right quick setups.

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