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    Hi all, been playing the game for a little while now (something to do while I wait for DA4) and was looking for some team building advice. I think I have some pretty solid characters for a F2P account but not really sure what has good synergy. I've not tried fortifying anything yet so might try to get gems from the events to buy wisp packs since I noticed everybody has much higher health and damage output than me. On to the characters:

    I still have a few tomes of ascension dropped from missions left over after I maxed out the hawk family.

    Team 1:

    Arcane Garrett Hawke
    Arcane Marian Hawke
    Carver Hawke
    Bethany Hawke
    Northern Hunter dragon
    all are maxed level and max fusion (so 4/4)

    I do have a maxed out Viscount Varric I might swap in for Carver, not sure yet.

    For team 2 I wanted to do something Grey Warden related, I have a few of those so figured if I match up the same faction type then they seem to provide buffs to each other but a lot of it goes over my head. Here are my options:

    Riordan (4/4 90/90)
    Warden Commander Clarel (4/4 90/90)
    Warden Commander Duncan (4/4 90/90)
    King Alistair (4/4 90/90)
    Vengeance Anders (4/4 90/90)
    Ser Stroud (4/4 85/85)
    Grey Warden Sigrun (4/4 85/85)
    Grey Warden Genevieve (3/4 71/85)
    Blighted Oghren (1/4 57/70)
    Barkspawn (1/4 1/70)
    Grey Warden Knight (4/4 90/90)

    So I already know to unlock the rest of their damage percentage boosts I'll need to use wisps so buying black/white wisp packs is almost a certainty, mythic wisps to fortify and everything else to unlock the upgrades and health/damage slots.

    For equipment for my team (only equipment I have on so far is Hawke family keepsake lockets and some uncommon and rare stuff I should probably switch out for legendary or mythic stuff now):

    MYTHIC

    ancestors greaves x 4
    maul of the dragon x 1
    enchanted silver armour x 3
    emblazoned kirkwall shield x 5
    arms of the champion x 1 (thinking this for Duncan or Riordan as they attack fast, might be useful as assassins and jump on fast enemy units on the back row first?)
    alchemical concoctions x 8

    LEGENDARY

    walking death x 1
    vestments of the dragon hunter x 2
    strouds targe x 1
    soothers saphire x 4
    senior warden staff x 4
    ritual breaker x 1
    revered defender maul x 2
    mythals blessing x 3
    malferaths maul x 1
    heartwood shield x 3
    great dragon staff x 4
    grand enchanters staff x 3
    dragons testament x 4
    demons advocate x2
    cobra crown x 1
    bloodline x 1
    ardent blossom x 2

    EPIC

    warden tower shield x 7
    spear thrower x 6
    shield of le marque x 1
    ser alverds sword x 3
    sentinel staff x 4
    ring of resilience x 3
    remarkable emerald x 3
    redcliffe shield x 9
    merideths key x 2
    maul of tacitus x 1
    lineage x 8
    hisseras mask x 2
    antique warden crossbow x 5

    RARE

    wilhelms staff x 2
    wedge of destiny x 7
    staff of corruption x 4
    serum of ambition x 2
    sentinel plate pauldron x 1
    scouts armour x 1
    sad weapon x 6
    sacrificial dagger x 5
    rebound dagger x 11
    quanari tower sheild x 1
    prowler mail x 7
    masterwork witch staff x 2
    keepsake locket x 6
    forgemaster hammer x 7
    elven plate armour x 1
    earnest reprisal x 1
    dirthamen wisdom x 1
    dalish ring x 3
    chantry robe x 5
    captains plate x 12
    blood dragon greaves x 2

    UNCOMMON

    stuffed mabari x 1
    studded leather pauldron x 1
    hardened gurn hide x 1
    crow shield x 3
    lothering lament x 1
    soldier plate x 1
    defender coat x 1
    cutpurse slicer x 1

    Thanks for reading.
    Last edited by Arkanis Gath; 05-13-2018, 02:14 PM.

  • #2
    Hi, welcome to HoDA forum,

    I see you have pretty good heroes.
    Your mage squad is pretty good, I would use AGH, AMH, Clarel/Bethany and VV, your mages matches pretty well with VV.
    Clarel is a pretty good mage, you can use her with your Hawkes too.
    I prefer Carver in a x4 Carver squad with speed runes.
    KA is the current meta squad, I don't know how many Alistairs do you have, 2 KA, 2 Ferelden Banners or 3 KA and FB are great setups, if your don't have it, you should try to open some CP to get Ferelden banner.
    Clarel, Alistair, Duncan and V Anders are your best wardens currently, if you don't have dupes I would use them.
    I would equip your KA with the enchanted silver armour and defense hear as Stroud shield.
    Your best heroes are VV, KA, Clarel, AGH, AGM, I would tier and fort them well.
    I see you also have great gear for your VV, walking dead, arden blosom, arms of the champion and the crossbow works pretty well with him.
    For your mages I would use, vestments, grand enchanter staff, bloodline and warden crossbow.
    You can also do some Origin Gaunlet runs to get a good demon squad, they are still pretty good and useful, you can get kitty and envy demon, dupes are very useful, and you can also get Possessed Ogre Commander.
    Other great gaunlet drops: Fen Harel and Spirit Champion, they are very useful for your elven squad and FH is a great addition for your mage team.
    Don't worry to use your gear, you can get more great gear at Origin gaunlet too and some extra tomes.

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    • #3
      Cheers I'll start working on those teams, just dropped a grey warden fiona, I'll get one of those banners yet hopefully.

      I didn't know about dupes when I started so I kept consuming them to increase my stats and unlock the bonus slots, live and learn there. Heard someone talking about how Genevieve, Clarel and Alaistair would give a bunch of immunities and stuff but not sure about that one. Clarel, Alistair, Duncan and Anders it is. I'll also drop some gems on wisp packs for them.

      Not able to compete in Gauntlets yet. I make it to 13/15 but cant beat the drakes and leopold there. Maybe I need to fortify first.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arkanis Gath View Post
        Cheers I'll start working on those teams, just dropped a grey warden fiona, I'll get one of those banners yet hopefully.

        I didn't know about dupes when I started so I kept consuming them to increase my stats and unlock the bonus slots, live and learn there. Heard someone talking about how Genevieve, Clarel and Alaistair would give a bunch of immunities and stuff but not sure about that one. Clarel, Alistair, Duncan and Anders it is. I'll also drop some gems on wisp packs for them.

        Not able to compete in Gauntlets yet. I make it to 13/15 but cant beat the drakes and leopold there. Maybe I need to fortify first.

        You shouldn't consume your heroes, they are very useful for some setups and even if they aren't worth in that moment, they could be revamped as King Alistair and be awesome toons, if you don't have enough space, you can use them to fort other heroes and get them back if you need them.
        It is better to consume wisp, you gain more experience than consuming heroes.
        Genieve is a pretty good chooice too, but Duncan was updated and he is pretty dangerous now, that is the reason why I picked him.
        It is better to ascend legendary wisp to mythics and keep your gems for opening CP and GCP or fort your heroes with legs at the moment, if you are f2p, you should save your gems to get important heroes to improve your squad.
        Yes, if you fort well your squad, you will be able to complete gaunlet, and even if you don't complete it, you will get the prices of the nodes that you completed, so you are still getting good prices and you can get great hereos, gear and tomes, it is worth it, you can also use runes to complete Origins Gaunlet at the beginning.

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        • #5
          i can turn a legendary wisp into a mythic one? Do I just make wisps consume each other until they change, I've quite a lot of legendary wisps but was concerned if I have them consume each other I'd just end up with 4/4 wisps (which are probably still better for fortifying than 1/4 legendary wisps now that I think about it)

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          • #6
            I use KA, Thom Rainier, GC Duncan, GW Banner and Warden Knight, damn i stack 80% of dmg resistance using stroud targe, silverite armour, and the new armor for wardens, my KA is inmortal, and duncan kills always in a single hit.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Arkanis Gath View Post
              i can turn a legendary wisp into a mythic one? Do I just make wisps consume each other until they change, I've quite a lot of legendary wisps but was concerned if I have them consume each other I'd just end up with 4/4 wisps (which are probably still better for fortifying than 1/4 legendary wisps now that I think about it)
              If you have legendary wisp forted into a hero and place a mythic wisp on top of it then it will both tier up and become a mythic fort. Additionally, if you have a mythic wisp forted into a hero it will tier up and remain mythic.

              For example, if I have a hero with a T1 legendary white wisp in a power fort slot and I place a T1 mythic white wisp on top of it then it will become a mythic T2 fort. On the other hand, if I have a mythic T1 wisp in that same power slot and place a legendary T1 on top of it I'll still end up with a T2 mythic white wisp fort.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Arkanis Gath View Post
                i can turn a legendary wisp into a mythic one? Do I just make wisps consume each other until they change, I've quite a lot of legendary wisps but was concerned if I have them consume each other I'd just end up with 4/4 wisps (which are probably still better for fortifying than 1/4 legendary wisps now that I think about it)
                No, you can ascend them to mythic using tomes of ascension, it is better for forting heroes, you will get tomes at gaunlet.
                Kidnova explained it perfectly

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                • #9
                  If you don't belong to any guild you should join one, you will get some extra gems at GW and BP.
                  That will help you and veteran players will give you good tips.
                  I sent you a PM if you are interested.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kidnova View Post
                    If you have legendary wisp forted into a hero and place a mythic wisp on top of it then it will both tier up and become a mythic fort. Additionally, if you have a mythic wisp forted into a hero it will tier up and remain mythic.

                    For example, if I have a hero with a T1 legendary white wisp in a power fort slot and I place a T1 mythic white wisp on top of it then it will become a mythic T2 fort. On the other hand, if I have a mythic T1 wisp in that same power slot and place a legendary T1 on top of it I'll still end up with a T2 mythic white wisp fort.
                    Thank you for explaining this. I got lost a little on this. But what happens if I forted my toons with toons? How will this work?
                    And was it a mistake to fort toons with toons not with wisps?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RoenGs View Post

                      Thank you for explaining this. I got lost a little on this. But what happens if I forted my toons with toons? How will this work?
                      And was it a mistake to fort toons with toons not with wisps?
                      I believe it would work the same, so if you placed a myth hero on top of the same leg hero it would upgrade that fort to mythical, but I've never tested it myself. Somebody else would need to confirm. The rule I tend to follow is that if I think a fort slot is worth a mythical fort, either now or later, then I use a wisp. If I'm going to be happy with T4 leg then I'll use either a hero or wisp depending on what I've got available. Wisps have become so readily available that I use them more often than not.
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                      • #12
                        I can confirm that adding a Mythic toon to the same Leg toon in a fort slot will raise that fort to a Mythic T2. Worked for me anyway

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                        • #13
                          Thank you both Kidnova & Poohjay. I will try to do so. I have being playing this game for three and a half years and up to now my toons are forted with only T1 legendary toons and some T1 Mythic wisps. You can say that my barracks is a jack of all trades but absolutely master of non.
                          It seams that this process consumes allot of tomes of ascension.
                          Last edited by RoenGs; 05-14-2018, 11:14 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RoenGs View Post
                            Thank you both Kidnova & Poohjay. I will try to do so. I have being playing this game for three and a half years and up to now my toons are forted with only T1 legendary toons and some T1 Mythic wisps. You can say that my barracks is a jack of all trades but absolutely master of non.
                            I seams that this process consumes allot of tomes of ascension.
                            Yeah, the best thing about wisps is that you don't need any tomes.
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                            • #15
                              Cheers for the advice everyone. I've joined a clan "Griffins Flight". Think I'm doing much better now, used a few xp runes in the double exp key event and have shot up to level 129. Just need a lot more runes now for fortifying my stuff.

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