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  • #16
    I can’t complain too much.Pg ends at midnight here,though I work Sunday mornings.The new pvp will be smack dab in my workday though.Ill have to see it in practice before I decide if it’s good or bad!

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    • #17
      I have mix feeling for the time shift but, the more I think of it the more I seem to like it. In time I will decide if it is better for me or not.

      As for this week PVP and Quest Events, should be fun with the Row Attackers and Elves.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dildoith View Post
        Ill have to see it in practice before I decide if it’s good or bad!
        A good philosophy to take on any changes that are implemented Always give it some time and give it a try before immediately deciding whether it's good or bad.

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        • #19
          The thing is people who are fine with PG ending time would not post their disagreement on the forum so I have to disagree with Grey Warden, saying "all players" would be a huge stretch even if it's just all players who on the forum

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mer'lan View Post
            The thing is people who are fine with PG ending time would not post their disagreement on the forum so I have to disagree with Grey Warden, saying "all players" would be a huge stretch even if it's just all players who on the forum
            I didn't say all players, I said lots of players, referring to Europeans who have bad PG ending time at 5-6 am and now bad pvp ending time at 7 pm too when most of players are working at weekdays if you aren't a child.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Lyeshal View Post


              Bearing in mind:

              6pm GMT = 1pm Eastern, 12pm Central, 11am Mountain, 10am Pacific, this change is not geared toward making it easier on "other parts" (aka Non-European) of the world. It does, however, make it a more reasonable time not just for Europeans but also Russians and Asians, while still being doable for North and South America.

              We were actually thinking a great deal about our European players when making this change, as this time now falls sometime between 6pm - 9pm for our European players, which should be much better than 10pm - 1am.

              When there were discussions surrounding changing the ending time for Proving Grounds, most active members of the community here at that time ultimately settled on 6-7pm GMT as being a good end time for events based on how well it would cover a large portion of the world for being some kind of reasonable time. We leaned on that feedback when deciding on a time.

              Proving Grounds remains a terrible time for pretty much everyone. We're looking into what we can do about that, but it's far more complicated than anyone might expect to make a change to that.
              In Russia we have 8 or 6 time zones, because country is great and laying in both parts of the world: Asia and Europe. So changes are very useful.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Grey Warden View Post

                I didn't say all players, I said lots of players, referring to Europeans who have bad PG ending time at 5-6 am and now bad pvp ending time at 7 pm too when most of players are working at weekdays if you aren't a child.
                Well then, if that's a bad time for Europe, then at least now it's pretty much an equally bad time for North and South American players as well, as the end time in this hemisphere now falls between 9am - 3pm, when everyone on this side of the prime meridian is working, too.

                So with it being equally bad for most players, then the competition should be equal, meaning more people would be able to compete at the same levels due to life constraints.

                How about we take the "wait and see" approach? Let's see how the change actually affects players once it takes effect, rather than giving a knee-jerk negative reaction just because something has changed?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Lyeshal View Post
                  You have no basis on which to make this statement, as you are not privy to every communication between players and staff through the various channels offered.
                  As a long time reader of the forum, I've seen lots of complains about PG ending time, and I can't remember any public complain about event ending time. You may have received some private complains, but it seems a safe guess that it's not among the user's top priorities
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Lyeshal View Post

                    When there were discussions surrounding changing the ending time for Proving Grounds, most active members of the community here at that time ultimately settled on 6-7pm GMT as being a good end time for events based on how well it would cover a large portion of the world for being some kind of reasonable time. We leaned on that feedback when deciding on a time.

                    Proving Grounds remains a terrible time for pretty much everyone. We're looking into what we can do about that, but it's far more complicated than anyone might expect to make a change to that.
                    Just one consideration: I agree that 6pm GMT is a good end time for PG, because it's on weekends. It's not so good for workdays. As you said, let's wait & see, but also take this into consideration
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                    • #25
                      Welp, I'll probably never be competing for a top 50 ever again now things are going to be ending between 3-5am.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Lyeshal View Post
                        Well then, if that's a bad time for Europe, then at least now it's pretty much an equally bad time for North and South American players as well...


                        So with it being equally bad for most players...
                        I don't seem to get it. You really said you changed something that you knew will be bad for most players? If so, why the change? In the favour of the minority of players? It doesn't make much sense this way.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Acsi View Post

                          I don't seem to get it. You really said you changed something that you knew will be bad for most players? If so, why the change? In the favour of the minority of players? It doesn't make much sense this way.

                          You don't have the numbers, so please don't try to make speculations about what constitutes "majority" or "minority" of players. Also never underestimate my willingness to get snarky, especially when people immediately start jumping to the "this is a terrible plan" conclusion before even letting it have a chance to be tried. Sometimes we take the approach of "here's a silly statement that is equally as unfounded as the statements being made here" to prove a point. Some people get it. Some people don't. But there's a deep history on these forums of people immediately jumping to the negative conclusion and claiming doom and destruction, yet the game is still going and those same people are still playing, and often end up going "oh that wasn't nearly so bad as I thought it would be."

                          A great deal of analysis went into this decision based on a lot of information that the players simply aren't privy to.

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                          • #28
                            Im all about the time changes, it works much better for my personal schedule. Of course there's some that are inconvenienced by it also. Honestly I always wished the pvp events would have drastically different ending times each cycle, that way you can pick one that best fits your schedule when deciding to go for a top 50 finish.

                            Of course, then everyone would just be grump butts whenever a particular event didn't work for them
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                            • #29
                              For over 4 years PVP end time for me was 3-4am and I never wanted to compete most of them.

                              Let some of us too try to compete now.
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