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    I am not sure I understand the packs as they are now. I have every toon besides the newest one Duke Antoine of Wycome. Venatori is the featured group and there is a no dupe rule I have the 2/3 star guarantee in two packs and the 3star in 3. So it would seem to me that I would get the new hero on the first pack but I am thinking I would maybe have to pull 3 so I will get all dupes until the 3star guarantee hits as that has to be no dupe and in the other packs it can select a 2 star rather than giving me the one I don't have am I following this correctly? Before I would have got it on the first pull because of the no dupe rule. So unless I get lucky I have to burn 2 packs and get all dupes and on the third one, I will get dupes and the new one. Thanks in advance

  • #2
    it took three packs to get the new hero

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    • #3
      You are lucky. My main took 6 packs. So damn salty on the crap RNG for this round of drops for a 3* that is either good or a bench warmer.

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      • #4
        In my three accounts, two got the Duke on the first GCP, and the third one got it on the second GCP. But indeed, it can take several ones if you're unlucky and don't have guarantees; the worst case is 6 packs, as happened to nycdude
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        • #5
          I do not like that it could take up to 6 GCP's in order to gain a single missing toon really takes me back to the early days where you could buy tons of the packs and not get the toon you were chasing. I really miss the nrp

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          • #6
            I'm not aware that the guarantees or counters have changed, have they?

            I had all Ven when Antoine released. My GCP was 1 pack away from a 2/3* guarantee, my CP was about 6 or so packs away from that beautiful 3*; then 2/3*; then leg guarantee.

            I got a lot of luck from my first GCP; the RNG opted to give me a 3* on my 2/3* guarantee and then the no-dupe kicked in and gave me Antoine.
            I decided to try my luck and bought up enough CPs to get me to the 3* guarantee as, if my count and memory are accurate, there are only 3x 3* Ven (not counting DoTEO - so TEO, Gereon, and now Antoine). BOOM! Antoine #2.
            And since packs were a reduced price, I decided to grab 1 more CP on a 2/3* guarantee and VOILA! Antoine #3.

            So I ended up with 3x Antoines for around 350 gems.

            I realize this was incredibly lucky; but it serves to show that as far as I know the pack guarantees are still functional, as is the ever omniscient RNG.

            .............. and now you may all hate on me.
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            • #7
              Guarantees changed because now the 2/3* guarantee can drop a 2* (dupe) even if you lack the Duke, as now there's a separate queue for 2* and 3*. Time ago, a 2/3* guarantee will guarantee the missing Duke, but now only the 3* guarantee ensures it. If you just triggered the 3* guarantee, the next one is 6 packs ahead, which is the worst case scenario. Of course it's a lot, but I don't see that bad, as it only happens when you are extremely unlucky AND you're 6 packs ahead of the guarantee... things are much worse when trying to get a 2nd one, but of course you can just wait the pack-a-palooza

              IMHO things are worse in places with no guarantees; you may grind The Lonely Path forever without never dropping a TS (not my case, luckyly), or Metas without never dropping a Xenon (that was my case)

              btw... we don't hate you Nog, just a very small bit of envy ;-)
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hellboy View Post
                Guarantees changed because now the 2/3* guarantee can drop a 2* (dupe) even if you lack the Duke, as now there's a separate queue for 2* and 3*
                Gold star for Hellboy for reading all the words

                Keeping in mind that in that "Time ago", the 2/3* Guarantee was every 6th pack, where now it's every 2nd pack. The main difference now being that what was formerly the "Featured" guarantee (every 2 packs) is now the 2*/3* guarantee, since we have moved to a structure of having a Featured Group every week, where ONLY those heroes exist in the pack for the week. So we changed the guarantees to make it so you'll be guaranteed at least a 2* hero every other pack instead (where before, if you had all the heroes that were featured, you could keep dropping just 1* heroes forever), making it easier to duplicate the 2* and 3* heroes, and you're also now guaranteed a 3* hero every 6th pack (where before, if you had all the heroes that were featured, your 2*/3* Guarantee every 6th pack could just keep dropping dupe 2*), making it easier to duplicate specifically the 3* heroes.

                More information on this is available in the University of Orlais, in the pack info thread.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by xXx_nog_xXx View Post
                  I'm not aware that the guarantees or counters have changed, have they?

                  I had all Ven when Antoine released. My GCP was 1 pack away from a 2/3* guarantee, my CP was about 6 or so packs away from that beautiful 3*; then 2/3*; then leg guarantee.

                  I got a lot of luck from my first GCP; the RNG opted to give me a 3* on my 2/3* guarantee and then the no-dupe kicked in and gave me Antoine.
                  I decided to try my luck and bought up enough CPs to get me to the 3* guarantee as, if my count and memory are accurate, there are only 3x 3* Ven (not counting DoTEO - so TEO, Gereon, and now Antoine). BOOM! Antoine #2.
                  And since packs were a reduced price, I decided to grab 1 more CP on a 2/3* guarantee and VOILA! Antoine #3.

                  So I ended up with 3x Antoines for around 350 gems.

                  I realize this was incredibly lucky; but it serves to show that as far as I know the pack guarantees are still functional, as is the ever omniscient RNG.

                  .............. and now you may all hate on me.

                  What's your plan with those 3 copies of the Duke? I got super lucky and had my 2/3* guarantee on my next GCP and got 2 copies on my first pack, but I don't know if it's worth keeping 2 or going for the quick tier. Especially since unit space is constantly getting full, it's getting harder to justify keeping dupes of a unit that don't stack well. I haven't seen much discussion on the new toon yet at all, so I'm not really sure what's the best course of action.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Brian Tessier View Post


                    What's your plan with those 3 copies of the Duke? I got super lucky and had my 2/3* guarantee on my next GCP and got 2 copies on my first pack, but I don't know if it's worth keeping 2 or going for the quick tier. Especially since unit space is constantly getting full, it's getting harder to justify keeping dupes of a unit that don't stack well. I haven't seen much discussion on the new toon yet at all, so I'm not really sure what's the best course of action.
                    I built all 3 of mine - and would definitely recommend keeping 2. If you somehow end up with a 3rd, I wouldn't blame you for eating him.

                    But 2x is some serious Inquisition debuffery going on, -50% power and drain resist. Pretty easy to walk all over Inquisition toons with a couple Antoines, they have no problem handling Leliana/TSera squads in the current Ferelden event.
                    Last edited by xXx_nog_xXx; 09-05-2019, 05:51 PM.
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