KA update isn’t good for the game

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  • #76
    Too bad i left the phone in my home, i can even post a video on how to counter the hardest KA setups, even the FBx2/Sarath combos but im afraid my guild wont be happy with me if i share this information, but come on, you can do it
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    • #77
      meh, people are always crying for something, but they are playing the same ****, if is not KA, its kitten, or bartand, or hawkes, etc. And whats the problem with f2p players dude?, they deserve some good characters and ITS A FREE TO PLAY GAME DUDE.
      This pay to win crap its terrible.

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      • #78
        I think the KA revamp, and warden revamps in general, are excellent. Nicely balanced, improving strategic and team building options across the entire game. Well done Lyeshal and CG. Looking forward to future revamps!

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        • #79
          The problem with KA teams is not that he can't be countered. I can fight any KA team easily. However, with the introduction of KA, everyone can now counter every defend (PG) team no matter how meta it is. This is because KA are too well rounded and has so many good support. This combined with different rune slots update make it impossible to reliably defend in PG. Not saying that there should be an ultimate defend team, but if a player spend time OR money OR effort (I said OR to indicate both PTP and FTP) to build up a good team to defend in PG, it should be reliable at the very least. At the moment KAs can be combined with several different units and rune slots to make hard counter for every defend (you can make KA stun team, KA quick team, KA drain team, KA tank team and KA curse team with 2-3 KA and 1-2 support) and if that is the case then What is the point of spending to build a good team?. My alt spent all it's resource to build and mythic fort 3 KA, some banners, GD, Sarath and let me tell ya, it can defeat most if not all of the top 10 PG team quite easily. That acc didnt spend a dime on the game and have nothing left but the heroes mentioned above because there are just no need for other heroes and look what it can accomplish. I myself love the game and love to see Alistair became strong but with this update I see no incentive to spend gems for the game anymore atleast at the moment and i sure hope I'm wrong tho.
          Also worth to mention that in PG, a lost mean losing 20-30 banners which push your rank down significantly. And with everyone having KA teams, PG became a playground of luck. If you are unlucky and get hit by KA team that can counter your setup at then end (4-5mins before PG end), you rank drop around 100 ranks. I notice there are several snipers that just lying there and wait (they dont fight in PG at all), then at the end they hit 1-2 top leader board players with a hard counter KA team and get 50-60+ banners and get easy 140-210 gems. Which is pretty bad for a competitive system if you ask me
          Last edited by Mer'lan; 05-14-2018, 01:24 PM.

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          • #80
            There are lots of ways of manipulating the PVP and PG system. There always have been. And the game has always had a huge dose of RNG. For my sake, things are as balanced as they’ve ever been. This revamp changes nothing, except by giving additional counter options. This is an improvement, no matter how you look at it. Good work Lye!

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            • #81
              Originally posted by STGZ View Post
              I think the KA revamp, and warden revamps in general, are excellent. Nicely balanced, improving strategic and team building options across the entire game. Well done Lyeshal and CG. Looking forward to future revamps!
              Me too, very pleased with the KA and other revamps and the possiblities they open up. Thanks L and CG!
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              • #82
                Originally posted by bladeck View Post
                meh, people are always crying for something, but they are playing the same ****, if is not KA, its kitten, or bartand, or hawkes, etc. And whats the problem with f2p players dude?, they deserve some good characters and ITS A FREE TO PLAY GAME DUDE.
                This pay to win crap its terrible.
                You misunderstood my concerns.It had nothing to do with f2p getting squads.I was under impression KA was being given away in nexus like before.Im good with everybody competing but believe you need to earn your status and not just given.Lyeshal corrected me and I’m good.
                And yes KA is simple to counter it’s just boring it’s in everybody’s dslot.If not him it would be some other toon in everybody’s dslot.
                P2p makes f2p possible

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by bladeck View Post
                  meh, people are always crying for something, but they are playing the same ****, if is not KA, its kitten, or bartand, or hawkes, etc. And whats the problem with f2p players dude?, they deserve some good characters and ITS A FREE TO PLAY GAME DUDE.
                  This pay to win crap its terrible.
                  I was under the assumption that KA was still in nexus where he was super easy to get.I don’t care if f2p get perks I just don’t think it’s right someone brand new to game can get meta squad with little effort.Lyeshal corrected me and I’m good with it.I just feel you need to put work in.Also I love f2p,some of my best friends are f2p but saying that p2p makes f2p possible.
                  Yes Dumat KA is very easily counterable just boring as hell in everyone’s dslot but that’s nature of the game!

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                  • #84
                    It is not always the discussions are for the hero when the problem is the duplicates

                    Could not for once get a hero power q can not be duplicated? And even more with ancient heroes these should not be duplicated since they do not generate any profit to the game

                    Hero that comes out good they duplicate it and it becomes op this and it is tired of seeing every time, they should already do something to prevent this from happening

                    to see what they say you can do a 3K team counter tell with what equipment you can do and q do not use DUPLICATES, xq it's easy to duplicate a hero and make it counter but there are players who do not like to depend on duplicates to play and we use different heroes, so with what equipment can this be done?

                    with equipment without duplicate I could beat 1kA up to 2kA but 3kA is not possible and that q use a specific equipment so q not use that equipment could not beat more than 1k and even more if they have not fully strengthened not they would have no chance in the fights

                    As I said I think it is time to put disadvantages to duplicate heroes, as for each duplicated hero, health is reduced by 10% or something like that, the hero's performance is not affected but the risk of the disadvantage must be risked. of the duplicates thus avoid these discussions as the one of kitty, bart or any hero that more than 1 results in an imbalance for the game

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Lyeshal View Post

                      Just because you are not personally able to figure out a counter to a team doesn't make that team or hero OP. There are plenty of people in here stating that the counters are out there for all combinations of KA (including a solution to the Ferelden Banner configuration). It's just a matter of solving the puzzle.

                      that was incidental to my complaint. my complaint was that you turned KA into an OTT demon counter when a demon counter already existed, which made both teams obsolete
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                      • #86
                        it would have been so much better if instead of debuffing demons, KA debuffed red lyrium. lorewise....neither fits alistair, but blights already have too many counters.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by DUMAT View Post
                          Too bad i left the phone in my home, i can even post a video on how to counter the hardest KA setups, even the FBx2/Sarath combos but im afraid my guild wont be happy with me if i share this information, but come on, you can do it

                          I found a team that can defeat 2KA, 2xFB and Saarath. Team Clarel with 200% curse resist, low slow resist, no dupe & without KA.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by gamesworn View Post


                            I found a team that can defeat 2KA, 2xFB and Saarath. Team Clarel with 200% curse resist, low slow resist, no dupe & without KA.
                            I think you created a very solid build
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by vitus View Post
                              lorewise....neither fits alistair
                              Well, there's your answer

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                              • #90
                                Guys I reiterate that it is absurd that a hero like SSMorrigan, so coveted and unobtainable, is so useless. And the Alistair who all have by now, are so strong. It is normal for older players to lose interest.

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