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    KA has new update that makes it too easy to build a pg worthy team.I don’t understand and I’m kind of ticked off.In my opinion it makes me feel all of my effort to build up toons and use best gear is kind of wasted when a toon like KA comes pg ready and very easy to acquire.People a month into playing can have a team ready to rock in pg and they are on equal or close to equal playing field too easily with vets and/or spenders.
    I understand why SSM isn’t insanely meta because it would be unfair to community that doesn’t have her but giving so much power to a toon that is very easy to acquire for free makes it feel like a waste to chase toons and use resources to build them up.
    I’m very disappointed!!!

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    Originally posted by Dildoith View Post
    KA has new update that makes it too easy to build a pg worthy team.I don’t understand and I’m kind of ticked off.In my opinion it makes me feel all of my effort to build up toons and use best gear is kind of wasted when a toon like KA comes pg ready and very easy to acquire.People a month into playing can have a team ready to rock in pg and they are on equal or close to equal playing field too easily with vets and/or spenders.
    I understand why SSM isn’t insanely meta because it would be unfair to community that doesn’t have her but giving so much power to a toon that is very easy to acquire for free makes it feel like a waste to chase toons and use resources to build them up.
    I’m very disappointed!!!
    and just like that, KA is the new Kitty.
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    • #3
      There's another problem, that I explained on http://forums.capitalgames.com/forum...s-5-1-18/page5


      Originally posted by Hellboy View Post
      One week after the revamp, and I'm having mixed feelings about King Alistair...

      He's really very strong, and with the right gears it's now very, very easy to beat any demon's team. No more kitties in the top PG positions!

      And that's not good...

      Alistair is an easy win for Bartrands teams, like any other non-fast team. Only fast teams with speed+power could put Barts into troubles now and then. And fast teams with speed+power have now been defeated by Alistair teams, thus leaving a green field for Barts...

      So Alistair is very good, but he fixed the wrong problem. Instead of "fixing" the Barts, he "fixed" the only teams that could bother Barts.

      So, more now than ever... NERF BARTRAND!
      You said that new players are soon on equal or close to equal playing field too easily with vets and/or spenders... but the truth is that only the Bartrand teams can fight for the top positions on PG, and now more than ever.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hellboy View Post
        There's another problem, that I explained on http://forums.capitalgames.com/forum...s-5-1-18/page5




        You said that new players are soon on equal or close to equal playing field too easily with vets and/or spenders... but the truth is that only the Bartrand teams can fight for the top positions on PG, and now more than ever.
        I have x4 barts and I was all for fixing key but now I’m against it.Until they get KA in-line .Pg is gonna be a bunch of KAs and teams will be rookies and vets mixed together.
        Rookies should be able to compete but they need to earn it and build and acquire teams like everybody else.Not simply given the toons upon downloading game.This update went way overboard.Again why do I bother building teams?

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        • #5
          Well, to be honest, my KA team will beat a novice's KA team with a hand tied back... I have them myth forted, I have the right gears, I have Xenon, FB and many LC to do a good setup, and not less important, I'm a much stronger player who knows how to do things work fine.

          That said, I agree that meta toons should not be free. But still meta toons aren't enough to be competitive.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hellboy View Post
            Well, to be honest, my KA team will beat a novice's KA team with a hand tied back... I have them myth forted, I have the right gears, I have Xenon, FB and many LC to do a good setup, and not less important, I'm a much stronger player who knows how to do things work fine.

            That said, I agree that meta toons should not be free. But still meta toons aren't enough to be competitive.
            Perhaps I exaggerated but my young f2p account has x2 myth forted kas!
            I don’t mind free but not so easy to obtain.I think f2p vets should have a right to toons but they put in their time to earn them!These are easy as heck to get and in dupes.
            Again it makes me second guess spending so much on game if I can get these new meta toons with lil effort.
            Last edited by Dildoith; 05-09-2018, 12:37 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hellboy View Post
              There's another problem, that I explained on http://forums.capitalgames.com/forum...s-5-1-18/page5




              You said that new players are soon on equal or close to equal playing field too easily with vets and/or spenders... but the truth is that only the Bartrand teams can fight for the top positions on PG, and now more than ever.
              You're right!
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              • #8

                So the account is young but you're a skilled player, which makes an important point. And still... what gears have your 2 KAs? What other units do you have to make the whole team? Have they a chance to beat your main account's KAs? Probably not...

                But again, I agree in your main point:

                Originally posted by Dildoith View Post
                I don’t mind free but not so easy to obtain.
                Maybe KA should be removed from the cheaper packs (and be very hard to get in events); the better is something, the harder should it be to obtain. Few of us will disagree with this...
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                • #9
                  Its sting quite a bit when the new KA completely outshine the oh so hard to earn shapeshifter morrigan. As for KA team buiding, give me a week and my ftp alt I can have 2 KA fully forted and geared with great dragon and banners. Buiding team is not that hard nowadays

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hellboy View Post
                    So the account is young but you're a skilled player, which makes an important point. And still... what gears have your 2 KAs? What other units do you have to make the whole team? Have they a chance to beat your main account's KAs? Probably not...

                    But again, I agree in your main point:



                    Maybe KA should be removed from the cheaper packs (and be very hard to get in events); the better is something, the harder should it be to obtain. Few of us will disagree with this...
                    I agree he should be harder to get, but he was a 1 star so unless people consumed all of their dupes, he is readily available in forts or the bench. New players would be the only ones having a hard time getting him.
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                    • #11
                      these are updates that make you want not to play anymore. now I understand why many players are abandoning the game. years and years to build strong characters and just an update to put all players at the same level

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                      • #12
                        While I don't think brand new players should be able to get to top spots that easily, I am not sure KA actually does that. The presence of KA will effectively remove most demon squads from the defense setup to be replaced with KA's. But if there are a variety of attack squads that can beat KA(especially ones not well forted/geared) doesn't it provide the best of both worlds. New players get a strong defense setup to at least compete a little bit but more experienced teams can still beat them moving up the ladder much easier. From what I have seen Barts have reigned supreme for months so there is effectively no change there. The only real changes are it is easier then ever for Barts and matches take longer to complete. While those may not be great I don't think they are game breaking. While I doubt this is possible anytime quickly, the one thing I think that would really help would be get rid of the two screens before the initial battle and merge them into one. If we could see the banner count on the "more info" screen and possibly show the gear attached to each toon without clicking on it you would easily be able to spot the new players with the shiny new toons that can easily be beat vs the more experienced players with the same toons that you likely want to avoid.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Madara View Post
                          these are updates that make you want not to play anymore. now I understand why many players are abandoning the game. years and years to build strong characters and just an update to put all players at the same level
                          As one of the few people who spent tons of gems to get 3 ssm, I couldnt agree more. Suddenly an old star toon came out on top and easily outshine my ssm leave a really bitter taste. Its not like I dont have tons of dupe Alistair myself but what is the point of chasing an extremely exclusive toon loosing both time and money and now everyone can field a better team using good ol 1 star that is available everywhere. (It pain me to say this since I love Alistair as a character in DA:O lol)
                          Last edited by Mer'lan; 05-09-2018, 01:46 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Radar2448 View Post
                            While I don't think brand new players should be able to get to top spots that easily, I am not sure KA actually does that. The presence of KA will effectively remove most demon squads from the defense setup to be replaced with KA's. But if there are a variety of attack squads that can beat KA(especially ones not well forted/geared) doesn't it provide the best of both worlds. New players get a strong defense setup to at least compete a little bit but more experienced teams can still beat them moving up the ladder much easier. From what I have seen Barts have reigned supreme for months so there is effectively no change there. The only real changes are it is easier then ever for Barts and matches take longer to complete. While those may not be great I don't think they are game breaking. While I doubt this is possible anytime quickly, the one thing I think that would really help would be get rid of the two screens before the initial battle and merge them into one. If we could see the banner count on the "more info" screen and possibly show the gear attached to each toon without clicking on it you would easily be able to spot the new players with the shiny new toons that can easily be beat vs the more experienced players with the same toons that you likely want to avoid.
                            Bart key fix is on the horizon (it has been confirmed). After that warden and KA will easily become the new meta. Strong toon is good and everyone love strong toons, I think the problem is people are getting angry since a toon that is considered "newbie" toon get such special treatment and easily outshine the new exclusive SSM as well as many other hard to get 3 stars

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                            • #15
                              SSM was easily countered upon release.I just think she’s cool because she’s rare but I wouldn’t use her in dslot

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