2* Bethany Hawke

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  • #76
    Originally posted by Liara View Post

    Perhaps CG has more of these "On enemy hit" abilities up their sleeves. BH could be extremely powerful with more of those running around. Xenon will be the first if I am not mistaken?
    Briala will make a good partner too maybe?

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Leo Johan View Post

      Briala will make a good partner too maybe?
      Meredith's Key could counter passive drain here as well. Some possibilities exist depending on future toon potential, certainly.

      Edit: Requiring at least one Templar companion, of course, such as Eva.
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      • #78
        As you are all continuing to measure heroes against the Stealth Sera stick, I want to remind you that we will be fixing Stealth against DR in the near future. Please keep that in mind as you are evaluating new releases.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Lyeshal View Post
          As you are all continuing to measure heroes against the Stealth Sera stick, I want to remind you that we will be fixing Stealth against DR in the near future. Please keep that in mind as you are evaluating new releases.
          I dont think we have been measuring them again seras lol. Pretty sure sera team will win over Bett team 100% as of now and probably after DR update too though since Bett team are still so squishy no matter how much DR they have (Unless 2 Teagan is employed then maybe). I think the main problem came from on hit effect heroes -> MD, ND, GUrn ect....

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Lyeshal View Post
            As you are all continuing to measure heroes against the Stealth Sera stick, I want to remind you that we will be fixing Stealth against DR in the near future. Please keep that in mind as you are evaluating new releases.

            I'm the only one that's mentioned Sera in this thread, so I will assume this is somewhat pointed at my previous comment

            I didn't bring her up as a measuring stick, I just brought her up because she's one of the few meta that BH won't trigger on-hit effects three times when she strikes. Another notable exception would be GEV. My comment was more along the lines of making note of how many meta level characters have very strong and hard to contend with on-hit effects, which is a great detriment to the usability of BH in a meta role (until on-enemy-hit toons start rolling out).

            Personally, my Sera is sitting collecting dust. I find her meta setup entirely uncompelling and boring.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Mer'lan View Post
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              That brought up an excellent point, I dont know if I interpret this correctly but this description mean when 1 enemy are hit, all enemies are drained by 2%, which mean an attack all by Bett will hit 5 enemies and drain each enemy by 2x5=10%, Then her 3x attack will drain the team by 30% which is very impressive.
              I don't think it will drain that much though, since the drain is measured from each attack. Therefore, her second attack will drain 10% of the remaining power after the first drain, and then it will repeat for the third as well. That means the power is only being drained 27% if my math is correct. Not a huge difference, but with the prevalence of multi-attacks those percentages might stack up.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Alduin The World Eater View Post

                I don't think it will drain that much though, since the drain is measured from each attack. Therefore, her second attack will drain 10% of the remaining power after the first drain, and then it will repeat for the third as well. That means the power is only being drained 27% if my math is correct. Not a huge difference, but with the prevalence of multi-attacks those percentages might stack up.
                I thought the drain depend on the attacker power though. Thats how on hit drain work right? Which means its not gonna be deminished after each drain?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Mer'lan View Post

                  I thought the drain depend on the attacker power though. Thats how on hit drain work right? Which means its not gonna be deminished after each drain?

                  Yes, however drains apply consecutively (.98*.98*.98 etc...) not summarily (.02+.02+.02+.02+.02)
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                  • #84
                    I see lots and lots of data/conjecture about BH. All I know is...in gameplay, I was completely underwhelmed.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by DUMAT View Post
                      Bethany by the numbers!!

                      Effective health post damage reduction: 24127
                      Additional Buffs: heal on ally hit ( she might not need extra healing gear, so there is more space for power gear)

                      Effective power: 3x (4516x1.55) =20,999 aoe damage ( comparison Arcane Garret eff aoe power 18461)

                      Extra pluses: Curse health resist for ferelden ( a highly effective team ability)

                      Best companions; All Hawkes, ATG, MD, ND, VV, AM, Druffy, etc ( she got great aura buffers)

                      All in all a great toon that can be used to nuke, because she is the most powerful normal power aoe hitter in the game-

                      Beware Passive drain.

                      The By the Numbers tilt: 9.5/10 for a 2*

                      PG material? don't know, wasn't lucky with my pulls so i can not test her, but at first sight she could find a niche, specially with Evangeline and a Merediths Key equipped to offset passive drain.

                      If anyone with a full forted and tiered Beth wants to fight against one of my pg teams, feel free to pm me, i can make a video.


                      Dumat - could you do a brief revisit of this hero to see if it's any more viable now?

                      Considering we have a few more on enemy hit gear / abilities from heroes such as Xenon, THO, Staff of Corruption, Vial of Dragon's Blood and Meredith's key, it would be interesting to see if a squad based on this mechanic gameplay could work.

                      As an aside in light of the recent epic Warden Bethany - the 2* legendary version seems a little weak by today's standards.

                      I'd like to suggest +75% power drain to allies (or at the very least noble allies) - might make this mechanic based gameplay viable without instantly self draining whole squad
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Coldbayne View Post
                        Dumat - could you do a brief revisit of this hero to see if it's any more viable now?

                        Considering we have a few more on enemy hit gear / abilities from heroes such as Xenon, THO, Staff of Corruption, Vial of Dragon's Blood and Meredith's key, it would be interesting to see if a squad based on this mechanic gameplay could work.

                        As an aside in light of the recent epic Warden Bethany - the 2* legendary version seems a little weak by today's standards.

                        I'd like to suggest +75% power drain to allies (or at the very least noble allies) - might make this mechanic based gameplay viable without instantly self draining whole squad

                        ​I agree, 2* Bethany could use a little love in the health department... hers is laughable compared to the revamp of the Arcane Hawkes. Honestly though, I think that's all she needs... just a bit more health. We can't make her too overpowered. =P (she's been my secret Bart/Kitty counter for a while now)
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Coldbayne View Post


                          Dumat - could you do a brief revisit of this hero to see if it's any more viable now?

                          Considering we have a few more on enemy hit gear / abilities from heroes such as Xenon, THO, Staff of Corruption, Vial of Dragon's Blood and Meredith's key, it would be interesting to see if a squad based on this mechanic gameplay could work.

                          As an aside in light of the recent epic Warden Bethany - the 2* legendary version seems a little weak by today's standards.

                          I'd like to suggest +75% power drain to allies (or at the very least noble allies) - might make this mechanic based gameplay viable without instantly self draining whole squad

                          It would be great if she could receive some love
                          She should certainly get some health, maybe a bit of power OR perhaps stealth mechanic (but that might be a lil bit OP)

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Coldbayne View Post


                            Dumat - could you do a brief revisit of this hero to see if it's any more viable now?

                            Considering we have a few more on enemy hit gear / abilities from heroes such as Xenon, THO, Staff of Corruption, Vial of Dragon's Blood and Meredith's key, it would be interesting to see if a squad based on this mechanic gameplay could work.

                            As an aside in light of the recent epic Warden Bethany - the 2* legendary version seems a little weak by today's standards.

                            I'd like to suggest +75% power drain to allies (or at the very least noble allies) - might make this mechanic based gameplay viable without instantly self draining whole squad
                            With new hero guidelines, she surely should be on the 35k range health wise. definitely needs a buff
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