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  • #16
    Originally posted by Alain Blandi View Post
    Look at those abilities. Then imagine that Merrill and Mythal along with two Fen' Harel. That's why they can't do something like that....or at least not soon...

    I agree, if FH is the most powerful toon with those new abilities an FH team would be indestructible and that would spoil the game.
    But I love the idea to create new elven toons and improve older elves that they aren't useful now.
    I would like to see Mythal in the game and other elven gods.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Grey Warden View Post


      I agree, if FH is the most powerful toon with those new abilities an FH team would be indestructible and that would spoil the game.
      But I love the idea to create new elven toons and improve older elves that they aren't useful now.
      I would like to see Mythal in the game and other elven gods.
      The problem is that we only hear tell through distorted stories about those other gods. With Solas and Flemeth we get a better view of Fen'Harel and Mythal. It would be nice.

      And I didn't put these on here but I'd like to see Garahel as well. Help boost the Wardens as the hero of the 4th blight. And Felassan from the Masked Empire.
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      • #18
        Feynriel-- been waiting on him for awhile, though technically only a half-elf :P

        Katriel--the elven bard from The Stolen Throne. It will be good to get more powerful elf characters who aren't mages.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Flerm View Post
          Feynriel-- been waiting on him for awhile, though technically only a half-elf :P

          Katriel--the elven bard from The Stolen Throne. It will be good to get more powerful elf characters who aren't mages.
          Michel de Chevin is an elf blooded human and is considered in the elves category. Alistair is an elf blooded human and is not considered in the elves category. So Feynriel can be a toss up.
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          • #20
            To be fair on the matter of half-elves; Michel knows (and tries to keeps secret) that he is a elf-blooded. Alistair doesn't actual know he is half-elf, was raised believing his mother is a just serving maid, and never actually finds out either. I think it would be fair to assume Feynriel would be in the elf catagory since he his mother is clearly Dalish and the person they ask for help is Marethari.

            Also wanted to second Garahel. He could be the first 3* Warden. He was so beloved that he could boost Wardens, Elves, or Allies in general without seeming out of place. Also, he's not a mage!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Inquisitor Adaar View Post
              To be fair on the matter of half-elves; Michel knows (and tries to keeps secret) that he is a elf-blooded. Alistair doesn't actual know he is half-elf, was raised believing his mother is a just serving maid, and never actually finds out either. I think it would be fair to assume Feynriel would be in the elf catagory since he his mother is clearly Dalish and the person they ask for help is Marethari.

              Also wanted to second Garahel. He could be the first 3* Warden. He was so beloved that he could boost Wardens, Elves, or Allies in general without seeming out of place. Also, he's not a mage!
              I'm going to play Devil's advocate just for a moment. Elves were once all magical beings, now not so much but it makes sense that there are more elven mages than other elven classes. But if we look through Zathrian's camp and Marethari's there is a treasure trove of non-mainstream elves.

              Pol for example.
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              • #22
                While most of the Elves who seem particularly significant are also mages, there are definitely a lot of non-mage elves to use. Dalish elves might be deserving of a distinct group now too. I think that it might be better to stick with more "mainstream" elves however. Most people who played DA might remember Zathrian, Lanaya, Feynriel, etc. If Pol were ever released, I think he might be met with a resounding "Who?"

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                • #23
                  Yeah, but the only non-mage elves I can think of are Fenris, Garahel, Zevran all the dalish who aren't keepers, and some alienage elves. So if we want to get the non magical ones we have to go for some of the more obscure.
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                  • #24
                    I don’t think them being a non-mage is too necessary, just perhaps refreshing considering how often Fen’Harel is seen (and resented).
                    There are still many good options for potential elves regardless. Here are a few elves that have not been named yet.

                    Minaeve -- an elven mage scholar who serves as the head creature researcher for the Inquisition.
                    Seranni -- Valenna’s younger sister, a Dalish Ghoul who serves The Architect.
                    Fenarel -- a temporary companion in Merrill's the Dalish elf clan.
                    Danyla and Athras -- Dalish elf in who was turned into a werewolf against her will and her husband.
                    Shianni and Soris -- from the City Elf Origins in the Denerim Alienage.

                    I have elves on the mind now too, so I'll leave it at that.

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                    • #25
                      I do like those characters you mentioned. While I wrote up my first three I didn't have them in mind, unfortunately, also I felt doing more than three at a time would be cumbersome.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Inquisitor Adaar View Post
                        I don’t think them being a non-mage is too necessary, just perhaps refreshing considering how often Fen’Harel is seen (and resented).
                        There are still many good options for potential elves regardless. Here are a few elves that have not been named yet.

                        Minaeve -- an elven mage scholar who serves as the head creature researcher for the Inquisition.
                        Seranni -- Valenna’s younger sister, a Dalish Ghoul who serves The Architect.
                        Fenarel -- a temporary companion in Merrill's the Dalish elf clan.
                        Danyla and Athras -- Dalish elf in who was turned into a werewolf against her will and her husband.
                        Shianni and Soris -- from the City Elf Origins in the Denerim Alienage.

                        I have elves on the mind now too, so I'll leave it at that.
                        There's another elf called "Fenarel?"
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                        • #27
                          Yeah. He's part of the Sabrae Clan (like Merrill). Maybe his name is a corruption of the name Fen'Harel; however, this seems unlikely as the Dread Wolf is hated for what he did to the rest of the pantheon. Good candidate for a hero. Most of the characters are. Except maybe a few citizens like Leandra, the Comtesse de Launcet, or that chantry mother from Lothering whom you can threaten to release Sten.

                          Here's a very small aside (why haven't Gascard Dupuis or Quentin been made into heroes) let's not dwell on this though as this thread is about elves.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Third_Monti View Post

                            The problem is that we only hear tell through distorted stories about those other gods. With Solas and Flemeth we get a better view of Fen'Harel and Mythal. It would be nice.

                            And I didn't put these on here but I'd like to see Garahel as well. Help boost the Wardens as the hero of the 4th blight. And Felassan from the Masked Empire.

                            I agree, I hope in Dragon Age 4 we will now more about elven gods
                            In Dragon Age 3 there are several mentions about the elven gods like Dirthamen or Andruil, perhaps in the future we will see these toons in the game when Dragon Age 4 has been released.
                            And I think Mythal at least should be in the game is very important in Fen'Harel story and if he is in the game, Mythal should be too.
                            I would like to see Garahel and Felassan too and the improvement of older elven like Zevran, Fenris or Ariane.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Grey Warden View Post


                              I agree, I hope in Dragon Age 4 we will now more about elven gods
                              In Dragon Age 3 there are several mentions about the elven gods like Dirthamen or Andruil, perhaps in the future we will see these toons in the game when Dragon Age 4 has been released.
                              And I think Mythal at least should be in the game is very important in Fen'Harel story and if he is in the game, Mythal should be too.
                              I would like to see Garahel and Felassan too and the improvement of older elven like Zevran, Fenris or Ariane.
                              I like that. Hopefully we do see them come around or at least learn more about them in DA 4. Should they all be part of HoDA I think a new affiliation is in order. Deities, for the elven pantheon, for the forgotten ones, for the arch demons/old gods, and Morrigan's son Kieran.
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                              • #30
                                Here just to list all the other good elves that were mentioned in this thread to organise it a little. Please say if I have missed any:

                                Athras
                                Avexis
                                Danyla
                                Felassan
                                Fenarel
                                Feynriel
                                Garahel
                                Katriel
                                Keeper Zathrian (as opposed to Zathrian)
                                Lanaya
                                Minaeve
                                Pol
                                Seranni
                                Shianni
                                Soris

                                And here are characters from the Dragon Age: Last Flight. This I bring up for the good elven characters (and for the valuable Warden and Warden recruit characters (all other affiliations will not be listed):

                                Caronel (elf/warden)
                                Isseya (elf/warden)
                                Valya (elf/Warden recruit)

                                Edelys (warden)
                                Lisme (warden)
                                Munk (warden)
                                Tunk (Warden)
                                Ogosa (warden)
                                Laros (Warden recruit)
                                Reimas (Warden recruit)
                                Sekah (Warden recruit)

                                I just thought they should be listed because the Wardens (in my opinion) are sorely lacking, anyone who sees the names can do with them what they will. I brought them up because Garahel was mentioned. I'd still like to keep this thread elven centred.
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