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  • #31
    by the way, thanks for the daily quest update. i was looking forward to this for a long time as i love the revamped daily red and wisp events.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Zanir View Post
      1. power creep

      2. the changing nature of star ratings
      Accepted, but not the thrust of my argument...

      3. they were the obvious heroes to have in the game at launch; look at some of the new heroes released in the last year, or even in recent weeks (Torpor and Wryme, one-off enemies in a side quest are both 3*s); CG can release new heroes or say **** it, upset the balance of the game and make all companions 3*s (which is a stupid idea)
      Putting your obvious hyperbole aside, they do release new heroes and rebalance old ones that do upset the balance (KA being a prime example), so what was your argument?

      4. many of the companions have multi-star versions: Varric, Morrigan, Alistair, IB, Sera, Sten, Leliana, Merrill, Carver, Bethany

      5. we get these group updates every 3 weeks, a handful of heroes at a time, and there are hundreds of legs in the game (look at how many were already updated) -- obviously, it's silly to expect every hero to get a revamp and some point, but we've had a lot of 'em
      My point being that these updates should not be wasted on already strong (IB, AL recently) and insignificant (Krem) heroes, but rather on significant or "more needy" heroes. Your whataboutism regarding certain companions is therefore a stupid argument to make.
      Last edited by KyreneZA; 08-15-2018, 10:41 PM. Reason: Formatting
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      • #33
        Nice and interesting updates. Especially with the revamps of IB and others and the fix for immunities and resistances. And the introduction of the 3* all colors wisps.

        I actually like that some toons do have the immunity skill.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by KyreneZA View Post
          Accepted, but not the thrust of my argument...

          Putting your obvious hyperbole aside, they do release new heroes and rebalance old ones that do upset the balance (KA being a prime example), so what was your argument?

          My point being that these updates should not be wasted on already strong (IB, AL recently) and insignificant (Krem) heroes, but rather on significant or "more needy" heroes. Your whataboutism regarding certain companions is therefore a stupid argument to make.
          I have explained this at length in the past, as it seems every time we do a revamp, someone makes this kind of inquiry and argument. I'm not sure there's anything left to explain about it.

          But, I will say it again, and this is the final time I am going to explain this, so please everyone bookmark this post so you can toss it to the next person who asks this question the next time we revamp heroes.

          Heroes that are chosen for revamps are based on the theme that is chosen for the week. Within that theme, we choose those who are most needy, or most significant - which often coincide, given the most signficant tend to come from among the original release of heroes.

          There are MANY heroes in the game, and most of the ones that players feel are "more important" were released when the game launched.

          When the game launched, there was no concept of star-ratings. There were only the 5 rarities, and Legendary was just Legendary. No one-star, two-star, three-star things.

          When the game launched, Epic Heroes were comparable in usability to Legendary, so to have "important" heroes as either Epic or Legendary was totally valid.

          As the game evolved, as games do, power creep occurred, making Epics fade into obscurity, and introducing the concepts of star-ratings, which ultimately caused 1* heroes (the original Legendaries) to then be outdated and outclassed.

          It takes just as much time to revamp a hero as it does to create a new hero, save for art, and given the community outcry to make their favorite heroes meaningful again, we have undertaken the goal of going through and revamping multiple heroes at once with each release, in accordance with the theme for that release.

          We have shown, in multiple ways now, that we are committed to bringing those important heroes up to a better star-rating and the ability to be much more useful.

          Keep in mind that different people find different characters to be "important". For example, many find Krem to be a very important character, and indeed, he is important in the greater Dragon Age lore. He is fully worthy of a 2* status based on his importance within the lore.

          We have also stated that while there are many companion heroes that we would love to upgrade to 3* because they are worthy of it, we simply cannot, due to the consume structure differences between 1*/2* heroes and 3* heroes.

          If your favorite hero hasn't yet been revamped, don't worry. It very likely will be when we get around to a group that they qualify for. But these things take time, and we are doing this as fast as we can.
          Last edited by Lyeshal; 08-16-2018, 05:51 AM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by KyreneZA View Post
            Accepted, but not the thrust of my argument...

            Putting your obvious hyperbole aside, they do release new heroes and rebalance old ones that do upset the balance (KA being a prime example), so what was your argument?

            My point being that these updates should not be wasted on already strong (IB, AL recently) and insignificant (Krem) heroes, but rather on significant or "more needy" heroes. Your whataboutism regarding certain companions is therefore a stupid argument to make.
            Because revamps are being distributed in small groups, all revamps need resources, Merrill was upgraded, Da2 companion, KA also from DAO, other companions are most likely to be revamped later, their time will come.
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            • #36
              Are prestige wisps already into cp/gcp?
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              • #37
                Was the potion increase part of this patch, or the game update of 2018-08-16?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by KyreneZA View Post
                  Was the potion increase part of this patch, or the game update of 2018-08-16?
                  Ingame announcement says it's only for this week

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by KyreneZA View Post
                    Was the potion increase part of this patch, or the game update of 2018-08-16?


                    what is potion increase ?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DUMAT View Post
                      Are prestige wisps already into cp/gcp?
                      Prestige Wisps will not be in the CP/GCP. There are things we have not yet released (but coming very very very soon) which will include them.

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                      • #41
                        I didn´t speculate on this revamp beforehand. If I would have – Bull´s Chargers would not have been my first guess. Great move!

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                        • #42
                          I finally got The Last Inquisitor! Thanks for putting him i the Knight Pack.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Lyeshal View Post
                            Prestige Wisps will not be in the CP/GCP. There are things we have not yet released (but coming very very very soon) which will include them.
                            Ohh cool, waiting impatiently
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DUMAT View Post

                              Ohh cool, waiting impatiently
                              Wait no longer

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